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happyjack
Storyline
Oct 18 2007, 4:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 18 2007, 4:59 AM EDT
"My wife and have have truly enjoyed Criminal Minds since the show first aired...that is until now. The show has been suspenseful and "edgy" until "Children of the Dark". This particular episode went way over the top and off our TV by depicting the random murder of a family...including the children. Come on, do you really think that is necessary or even appropriate? "

It's possible that our comments won't be appreciated by other fansof the show, but I have to agree. I have been a fan since the beginning. I turned this off in the first ten minutes. I know I didn't get to see how it all played out, but I was so angered by the premise, that I couldn't stay. Irresponsible.
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MasterBard
MasterBard
1. RE: Storyline
Oct 19 2007, 4:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 19 2007, 4:27 PM EDT
season one, episode seven, the Fox. A serial killer kills families with one boy and one girl while the family is suposed to be on vacation. He takes the family to the basement, one at a time, youngest first, and kills them, the last to die is always the father so that way he can see "what happens when the head of the family isn't strong." They only knew of two victim families but they found at least half a dozen mens wedding rings in the killers house, they were his trophies.
They've already explored this territory. We've had a child serial killer who was killing other children, the death of children isn't new ground in this show. They have to be realistic. The victims can't always be those who society forgets, or women aged 20-40. If that was true this show would get real old real fast.
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jareaufan
jareaufan
2. RE: Storyline
Oct 20 2007, 4:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 20 2007, 4:01 PM EDT
I completely agree with you there MasterBard.

happyjack, this show is reality. Murders happen every day, all around the world. Apparently, the truth of children being murdered and this whole idea is too much for you. It's not irresponsible in ANY way, it's life. You can't shut yourself away and refuse to accept it.
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phyllis_
3. RE: Storyline
Oct 24 2007, 10:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2007, 10:43 AM EDT
criminal minds keep us in reality and real life is very hard to take at times isn't it ? i will continue to be fan and be in total amazement of how sick and cruel some animals really are.. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
TiffanyQ
TiffanyQ
4. RE: Storyline
Oct 25 2007, 12:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2007, 12:00 PM EDT
i agree with the others. It is hard to imagine but it is life. Master bard is right without its edge the show would have been gone a long time ago. instead of thinking how "appropriate" it is it makes me grateful for what real men and women go through because this is the sick kind of things people do 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
MooreCriminalMinds
MooreCriminalMinds
5. RE: Storyline
Jan 24 2008, 4:47 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 24 2008, 4:47 PM EST
happyjack, I believe this was a very greusome episode, but that is merely the nature of the show, sorry if i come off as rude, i respect your beliefs, but the show depicts reality, like the others said and if that bothers you, maybe this isn't the right show for you 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Bessie_Mae
Bessie_Mae
6. RE: Storyline
Jan 24 2008, 6:17 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 24 2008, 6:17 PM EST
I'm confused about the irresponsible criticism. If this was marketed as a show for young people or children, sure, I could see that (although, how Children of the Dark is worse than some other episodes already mentioned, I'm failing to see). But, this is a show for adults to watch. If you say exploitative, okay (again, this episode wasn't any worse than other episodes - kids were brutally murdered in The Tribe -and neither episode showed the kids being killed if I remember correctly). But, since I expect adults to be mature enough to watch a show without saying, "cool! Let me go murder an entire family!" I'm not really sure why being responsible is an issue.

I just don't want to be pandered (not saying having a problem with the episode means that you want to be pandered). I don't want them to carefully choose to show only a certain type of victim. I don't expect serial killers to viciously murder adults and then go gaga-googoo over the precious babies and kiddies, sparing their lives because childhood is so sacred. And, I don't want tv shows that deal with the subject to pretend that this is what they're like. I'd find it pretty insulting.
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MooreCriminalMinds
MooreCriminalMinds
7. RE: Storyline
Jan 24 2008, 8:53 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 24 2008, 8:53 PM EST
I agree Bessie Mae, if ppl have a problem with the content, which is merely a depiction of reality, they should not be watching the show 4  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
thedarklordbee
thedarklordbee
8. RE: Storyline
Nov 9 2008, 8:49 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2008, 8:49 AM EST
i luved this episode, it makes it more intense when children die in the episodes, you expect things only to happen to adults, but things happen to kids all the time. but part of the reason i luved this episode was Carrie 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Special_Agent_Marta
Special_Agent_Marta
9. RE: Storyline
Nov 29 2008, 8:57 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 29 2008, 8:57 AM EST
I liked this episode. I agree that sometimes the storylines are perhaps too bloody (for example Blood Hungry or Legacy, but I liked them though) or cruel such as episodes like this in which children and/or families are murdered...but the show is based on investigations and, even if murders are sth we all wouldn't like to see, unfortunately they may happen and the aim of the show - as sb has said- is to be realistic in this sense. but it is realistic also in describing the characters' emotions and events of their lives. personally, what I like more is this last aspect of the show, together with - of course - the investigations and the profile analyses I find really interesting! :)
I think it's important not to remain insensitive watching those murder scenes, as they are unfortunately realistic, but we have to think that this is only a show!
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Tiger-10-8
Tiger-10-8
10. RE: Storyline
Nov 29 2008, 11:48 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 29 2008, 11:48 AM EST
In these posts, I'd like to know how many people would be offended if I brought real life to the board?Would it have no value? Could you stand it because it's not a TV show? These are are all valid questions whether you understand the reason for them or not.I watch Cm and don't find it too graghic. The murders are almost always depicted through crime scene photos but not generally through the Unsub carrying out the whole crime,one knife cut at a time. They don't even do it on Dexter.The scene of the crime is usually depicted by innuendo not by blatant blood bath. For those of you who really have an interest in what the BAU does, I'd like to suggest some books. These are the of crimes commited,where the Bau didn't get into and they were overlooked and under investigated til the childrens bodies were found. The level of torture and abuse will defy all reason. It's so horrific that you have to wonder, why was there no help. Have you any knowledge of Joel Steinberg,Hedda Nussbaum and the illegally adopted little girl, Lisa? Book, Lisa,Hedda and Joel "by Sam Ehrlich A book, with some of the most heartbreaking cases(and there are worse ones)is "Somewhere A Child Is Crying"by Vincent J.Fontana M.D. If you read these books and know the monsters are always people, you will be grateful for the restrain on CM. I nkow long posts are not always that popular, but I read every one I find. I hope you will accord me the same. Someday, I might post about the real world and it's faults,I hope you will read it then. Tiger 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Tiger-10-8
Tiger-10-8
11. RE: Storyline
Nov 29 2008, 5:02 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 29 2008, 5:02 PM EST
Will the person who thought my post had no value please post a reply. I'm interested to hear what you think.Thank you.Tiger Do you find this valuable?