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imayfakeit |
How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 14 2008, 4:25 PM EST
So... I know that there's been quite the debate about Rossi and Gideon. I, myself like both characters, and while I do admit that I miss Gideon and I wish Mandy hadn't left the show; I like Mantegna, and I love Rossi. :) He's never said that he was here to replace Gideon, and I truly believe that he doesn't intend to impose himself like that. But this is all my opinion. I guess I just like the show so much that I can learn to accept someone new. :) What can I say? Rossi grew on me. :)So, Criminal Minds fans. What do you think ? How do you feel about Rossi being here instead of Gideon ? Was he the right choice for this role ? Do you think that if Gideon could have picked who would be there instead of him, he would have picked Rossi (if Rossi wasn't retired) ? Or do you think that Rossi is a bad choice for Gideon's role ? (: Please, keep it civilized... Just because you like Gideon or Rossi better, doesn't mean you should depreciate someone else's opinion... 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?
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Madaline75 |
1. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 15 2008, 6:00 AM EST
I don't think Rossi replaced Gideon as such, the BAU just needed someone very experienced to take Gideons place so the age range is the same. Other than that they are two different people. I really, really like Rossi now and don't want him to go anywhere.I loved Gideon and I miss him...would love him back!!! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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imayfakeit |
2. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 15 2008, 4:44 PM EST
:) Same. If they had Gideon and Rossi on the show at the same time, there'd be nooo chance for the unsubs. x)
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Wolfeaddict |
3. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 17 2008, 5:11 AM EST
I think it gave the show a new direction, because even though Rossi has the same experience as Gideon, he wasn't a teamplayer at the beginning. And he had to get to know the team, so that made for some really good scenes. And Rossi is really different in terms of character.
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Cathain |
4. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 17 2008, 2:51 PM EST
I love Rossi. He is really great. He is now a member of the team and he really cares for them. He was there for Reid in the episode 4x07 Memoriam and he told Hotch, that he couldn`t do the negotiations in the hostage situation with Reid and Emily in danger, cause he was afraid to loose them. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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imayfakeit |
5. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 17 2008, 11:07 PM EST
Yes, he did. (: That was really touching to me, since Rossi has come a long way from when he first came back to the BAU.
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imayfakeit |
6. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 17 2008, 11:08 PM EST
:] Yayy! I like that people like Rossi. x) Coz, he's pretty awesome, y'know...
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wensmcg |
7. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 21 2008, 4:21 AM EST
I didn't like Rossi much to start with. But since season 3 was released we have watched them all again from the beginning of season 1 and as Rossi came along I have actually found him really growing on me. He is the "mom" in the team to Hotch's "Dad" role. He is actually pretty emotional and cares very deeply about the people they are trying to save, the ones they don't manage to and even more so the team - and he shows it whereas Gideon rarely did show how he felt. Gideon was a fantastic character, he really stole the screen when he was there, but having rewatched them all I haven't missed him when he was gone - even before Rossi came along. I think his leaving allowed a more balanced contribution from everybody - and although Dave wasn't much of a team player to start with he learned quickly. He should be forgiven for getting it wrong with the team initially - he'd been out of the system for a while, and had a pretty steep learning curve plus his "fan" Spencer to deal with!! ;-) So I dont feel that Rossi did step in where Gideon left off - they are so totally different. He merely stepped into a gap in the team. IMHO. Wxx 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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munner |
8. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Nov 27 2008, 10:20 PM EST
I have tried to give Rossi a good chance to come up to expectations, but I feel he just does not fit the role, and even seems uncomfortable in the role. Just because he wears a beard does not make him any more professarial or intelligent. I have loved all of Mandy Patinkin's work. Surely there is a better actor to fill his shoes. What about Hotch himself, and hire a new team leader, or promote Morgan to team leader. Keep the new girl wjen AJ comes back. Sorry, I just can't stomach Rossi on the show, and it takes away from the show for me!!
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criminalmindsfan1 |
9. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 24 2008, 1:52 PM EST
At first I did not like Rossi, but he started to grow on me when he learned about working together as a team. I also agree that Rossi has taken on the "mom" role on the team while Hotch has the "dad" role. I feel that Rossi has taken the time to try and get to know everyone on the team, and to comfort them when they are upset as well as celebrate with them when they are happy. I feel that Rossi has come a long way since his first episode. The first couple of episodes I was a bit uncomfortable with him, but that quickly changed. And munner I respect your opinion, I understand that you are not going to like everyone in our lives or on tv shows. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
batgurl88 |
10. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 24 2008, 2:28 PM EST
Well, I've gotten better about Rossi in recent episodes ('Masterpiece' notwithstanding), to the point where I'm finally able to accept the fact that he's on the team. I hated him with a burning passion when he first appeared - not only because his character was annoyingly abrasive at first and seemed to hog the screentime, but also because it didn't feel like there was room for another character after Gideon left. I know the idea was to fill in the spot Gideon's character had held, but the few episodes after Gideon's departure didn't feel like they were 'missing' anything or anyone. The team functioned well and they each adapted their own roles to make up for any losses, so that by the time Rossi showed up, it sort of felt like they jammed an unneccessary character into the lineup. Now, he's made a bit of a place for himself, and while I doubt he'll ever be my favourite, I can tolerate him just fine. I respectfully disagree with the description of him as "mom", though. Hotch has always played the "mom" of the team, and done it quite well, and I would argue that he moved into the "dad" spot when Gideon left, and is now playing both roles. Rossi, I see more as "uncle", if that makes sense. An authority figure, but not necessarily the one who doles out nurturing or punishments. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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criminalmindsfan1 |
11. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 24 2008, 2:47 PM EST
I think I like the uncle role better than the mom role. And I can also agree with you when Gideon left the show, the team worked just fine. I did not feel like there was a whole to fill, but I also felt that after Ell left too. When Emily first arrived it did not bother me, in fact I thought that the writers did a better job at introducing Emily than they did at introducing Rossi. At least they did not jam Emily down our throats like they did with Rossi.
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Wolfeaddict |
12. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 27 2008, 10:59 AM EST
I agree with most of what you said, batgurl, but I have to say that I do see Rossi growing into the "dad" role. Yes, Hotch was both mom and dad since Gideon left, but Rossi started to care for the team almost from the beginning. And I'm still wondering why Hotch hasn't stayed in Vegas when Reid tried to find out what had happened to Riley. Rossi did however.
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criminalmindsfan1 |
13. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 27 2008, 11:34 AM EST
I think that Rossi and Morgan had an inkling as to what Reid was up to, while Hotch probably thought that Reid was spending time with his mom.
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Wolfeaddict |
14. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 27 2008, 12:07 PM EST
Yeah, but when Rossi had picked up on it, so should have Hotch, cause he knew Reid much longer.
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batgurl88 |
15. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 27 2008, 1:12 PM EST
Well, I assumed Hotch and the others all picked up on it, but they decided that only two people needed to stay behind, since it wasn't an official case or anything. Morgan would've insisted, probably. I think Hotch might've volunteered Rossi to keep an eye on them, though. I don't know. As much as I wish Hotch had stayed with Reid for Memoriam (since they have more of a history together), I think it made more sense for him to be in Quantico for the episode, and to be there when JJ went into labour.
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imayfakeit |
16. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 31 2008, 10:13 AM EST
x) I'm so happy that there's a mini discussion here. Anyway. I wanted to say something too! So here goes.I pretty much agree with the three of you. As for a role that he would play... I think I can see the Uncle role pretty well, but I also see the Mom role too. But at the same time, I kind of felt like Hotch was a sort of Mom figure because even if he's more calculating, apathetic in his nurture and calm, I could still see that he was most protective of the team. When Gideon was around, I thought that Gideon was the father figure. But now I feel like the family has kind of regrouped since its disbandment and the Mom/Dad roles have sort of evolved into the Paternal Uncle & Widowed Father type roles. I think Hotch feels the need to look after the team with more vigilance since Gideon left, and I know that Rossi is there to help and look after the team as well (I think we've all seen him grow to be protective of the team), but I still think that Hotch feels that compulsion to care and save his family. They've already lost two members, and I think that they're all extremely aware about losing another. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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17. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Dec 31 2008, 4:07 PM EST
I actually still miss Gideon and Mandy on the show but I still think it's still as good as the other seasons.I don't hate Rossi as much as I used to compared to last season where I couldn't stand him at all and it felt like they were trying too hard to get people to like Rossi last season compared to this season where he fits in with the team more.
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18. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Feb 17 2009, 7:32 PM EST
my favorite character is Reid, and at first i didn't like Gideon that much. But after a started REALLY watching, i grew attatched to him. I think that no one can really hate Gideon. I also beleive that almost anyone who watched the first season would agree with me that you would grow to greatly respect him. When he left, i cried. a lot.When Rossi first arrived, i hated him very very very very much. Now he's ok, but i still hate him kinda. He is too....i dunno, he just doesn't seem like the right choice as a "replacement" for Gideon. i really don't like calling him Gideon's replacement. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: How Do You Feel About Rossi Stepping in Where Gideon Left ?
Feb 19 2009, 9:23 AM EST
I agree. he's not a replacement, simply because they are two different characters, each with his own personality: that's one reason why Rossi wasn't able to work with the team, at least at the beginning. if we think about it, the change Elle/Emily was similar. I think the show needs a new senior Agent who has great experience and fills that "dad" (or "uncle") role for the team. but I still think Gideon was a unique character and it would have been great to see him dealing with an unfinished business like that in Damaged: there would have been great scenes! Do you find this valuable? |
